The sire is a medium to dark tan and has TOV on his dam's side. (The sire's dam is an extra dark ebony and has a grandparent that was TOV. Everything after this was an extra dark ebony, so it could have been hiding in there). The sire is poorly veiled at best. If fact, I had decided that he was not TOV and then these two kits show up. I have seen people post pictures of tans that look like him and say that the animal was TOV. I will get a current picture of the sire so that you can give me your opinions on him. The last picture that I took of him was when he was about 9 months old. He has darkened a lot since then and I don't think he looks TOV to me. That's why these kits are throwing me for a loop. Oh, I almost forgot, these are not rescues. I have pedigrees on both parents of both litters. The lighter one has a homo beige mother that I bought from Bowen's Ranch and the darker one has a medium ebony mother. I'll have to check to see where I got her, I don't remember off hand but I can assure you that I do not breed rescues.