Many thanks for the advice and your time on the treat issue, I really appreciate it, and I just told gus his 2013 resolution was that he had to give up dried cherries, raisins, whole almonds, and just be happy with pellets, hay, water and chewing sticks. I am gonna try and find some rose hips and other safe healthy alternatives to treats for him. But thanks again, everyone is so nice and eager to help on this forum its great. Hopefully I wont wear out my welcome, for I still have many questions but i will start with one to two a week, and maybe form all your help one day I will be able to give advice to someone in need.