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I will try my best to describe the situation without leaving out details, but my vets and the entire hospital staff are baffled.

Cotton (2.5yo intact female) was passing blood in her urine last weekend, it persisted from about Friday night to Tuesday night, Wednesday there was no more blood, and there hasn't been any since. Sunday Cotton was placed on an all wet diet, 1 tbsp CSFCLS wet mixed with 1 tbsp water.

Entirely, Cotton is still very active, eating fine, her mouth checks out, drinking well, excreting and urinating normally (she's been on white liners since the blood started). Over the past few months, her weight has decreased slightly, this may be due to her eating less because of the warmer temps. Monday we called the vet and got an appointment for Tuesday afternoon. Tuesday morning I found a mass of tissue, about an 3/4 an inch long and a few cm wide in her liner near her wheel. It's solid, red/pink. See included pictures.

The vet checked Cotton out, and upon physical examination found a firm, 1cm diameter mass palpated in mid-abdomen area. When we submitted the mass for examination by the vet, she took it to several specialists within the teaching hospital and no one had any clue as to what this mass is. I submitted the sample to our diagnostics center yesterday, and because of the long weekend they won't get to really take a look at it until Wednesday, depending on if the tissue sample is still viable, which the lab Dr I spoke with said the sample still looked decent enough to have a go.

It has also been suggested that because she's showing no ill signs and seems to be improving, to wait until we can find out more about the tissue sample to continue forward with any kind of treatment- treatment for her at this point could mean an entire list of things to try. Most likely, we will be gassing her so they can get a better feel at what's going on in her abdomen because on examination she was pretty non-compliant and rolled up :banghead:

My question to anyone with any kind of experience out there is, have you ever heard of such a thing, regardless of species of an animal passing this type of thing with these symptoms or not? Because we are waiting to get a better idea of what this could mean, her prognosis is as of yet undetermined.
 

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Weird. It almost looks like fetus. Has she been near a male at any time ever in her life? If so, perhaps she retained a fetus and finally expelled it. I have heard of hedgehogs that upon necropsy retained fetuses were found.

Other than that, I have no clue at all what it could be.
 
Why don't they put the tissue in formalin? That's how we receive surgical tissues in the lab at the hospital. It keeps the tissue viable for an exam. The only thing you can't do with a tissue in formalin is genetic studies.

Anyway, I have no idea what it is.
 
I too thought it looked like a fetus, but I know barely anything about hedgehogs. In either case, I hope she's okay!
 
Thank you all for your input and well wishes :). We do have a male, Noodles. I am willing to admit there could be a 1% chance it's a fetus- seriously a very small chance if at all- only because I know they can be extremely quick, but they're always supervised. My husband and I originally thought that's what it may be, and we're even hoping so because that would certainly explain the blood, but so far the vet and other specialists aren't entirely convinced that's what it is. I am keeping my fingers crossed the diagnostic center will find out something more.

Cotton's doing great though, I'll be sure to update when we receive word back on what this is.
 
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Why don't they put the tissue in formalin? That's how we receive surgical tissues in the lab at the hospital. It keeps the tissue viable for an exam. The only thing you can't do with a tissue in formalin is genetic studies.

Anyway, I have no idea what it is.

The lab ended up putting it in formalin, not sure why the vet hospital didn't do that first off, but they could have and not informed me :hmm:
 
We do have a male, Noodles. I am willing to admit there could be a 1% chance it's a fetus- seriously a very small chance if at all- only because I know they can be extremely quick, but they're always supervised.

If you have a male and they have been together, even though they were supervised, I'm betting it's a fetus.
 
Females hedgies are induced ovulators which means they ovulate when in the presence of a male. If the girl has regular playtime with a male, regardless of how well supervised, she is ovulating and will be very receptive. Breeding could happen in seconds.

Being around a male without being bred is not healthy for them because it does keep them in a constant state of ovulation.

I say since she has been near a male, the chance of it being a fetus is high. That's what it looks like to me, an undeveloped or deformed fetus. If she still has a mass in her tummy, there could be another one in there. I agree that a fetus is the better of the possibilities because even if there is another one in there, she can be spayed and will be fine.

Praying for a positive diagnoses.
 
Thanks for the responses ladies. As previously stated, small chance because I know they can be quick- like very quick. I'm talking like there's a blanket over my lap, Noodles on the far left side of my leg, Cotton on my right side of leg type of thing. Regardless, I still would have been very surprised if it had been a fetus, but at least we would have known what the situation is.

Unfortunately, lab diagnosis was more along the lines of this being some kind of tumor that was passed- tissue and cells involved are non-fetal and resemble those found in smooth muscle tumors.
 
Just thought I'd update this thread. Cotton was doing normal for several weeks after this mass was passed. However she did begin to have blood tinged urine again for about a week it was orangey yellow, and the second week it became more and more bloody. In the meantime we had been in communication with the teaching hospital she is being treated at for our options for her, and settled on having her spayed Friday, October 16th.

I will post pictures later, but there was a very large tumor that was looming in one of her uterine horns, just huge. So far she's doing well and no more bloody urine. We were given some sq injections for her to help her manage for two days after the surgery and look forward to a speedy recovery and plumping her back up to her normal weight.
 
Thanks for the update. I'm sorry this ended up being a tumour but hopefully she will have a speedy recovery and a long life ahead of her.

Hugs
 
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