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A few notes on the show: Set up for the show will start around 4pm on Friday. Any and all help for set up is greatly appreciated. I will be happy to help rough groom and fill out paperwork once everything is set up for anyone that helps. Plus there will be goodies and snacks out to share...

3CsMommy, I have not noticed any after or side effects from the gentamicin. Since it is injected instead of given orally it should have little to no impact on the digestive tract. As far as hearing issues, those tend to show up at higher doses with prolonged exposure. I know that when they...

Update on my herd. I figured it was time to give you guys an update on how my herd is doing and share some good news. I treated my whole herd as I described in an earlier post with the gentamicin in early January. At that time I had a number of active abscesses and a few chins with goopy...

I will be writing all of the information up for both ECBC and MCBA. Hopefully it will be posted on their websites. I'm not sure if it will be done before the national show or not. I would like to have as complete a story and information as possible before I write it up.

It is settled, I will be at the National show this year, though I won't be showing any animals. I will be happy to answer anyone's questions to the best of my ability. I will be shopping as well. :)

I will be going! :) Should be fun and I can't wait to see what a National show is like. I will be shopping for sapphires so hopefully there will be some there. Is there any way we can get a list of what trophies are already sponsored and by who and which trophies still need sponsors? I also...

Choob99, I am sorry if I misinterpreted your post. To me it seemed like you were wanting people to post names and where it started. You are correct, there are a lot of variables that we don't know. The best we can do is figure out as many variables as we can and design experiments that...

Thanks saphire, I misunderstood what you were saying. Thanks for the clarification.

Saphire, not sure I would say tall, definitely on my high horse. Sorry. The finger pointing just really annoys me. I can assure you that the breeder I got this infection for and the breeder that breeder most likely got it from are not currently selling animals.

Choob99, I think at this point we are all better served by trying to find the best treatment and make sure everyone has access to the information they need rather than trying to point fingers or assign blame. I know which breeder I got it from and I am pretty sure I know which breeder that...

Just got the two latest cultures back and both can back as strep equi sub zoo. I am now sure that this is the problem bug in my herd. It has shown up in cultures from 3 separate abscesses in 3 separate chins that we're not caged together. The first culture was not a clean culture, I lanced the...

3CsMommy, almost right. The strep is not zoonotic, it is Streptococcus equi subtype zooepidemicus. Zoonotic means that the disease passes from animals to humans or humans to animals, which is not the case here. The abscesses are generally under the chin or on the front of the throat. They can...

The strep equi sub zoo is one strain (or class) of Beta Hemolytic Strep. Strep in General is easy to treat with the sulfa drugs, of which the uniprim is, but strep equi sub zoo tends to be resistant to it. Basically some of the papers show that of 100 strep equi sub zoo samples cultured that 57...

Thank you all for the support. We will find an answer to this that is not culling whole herds. Two more abscesses are being cultured as we speak to verify that they have the same bacteria as the first and to do further sensitivity tests on. Also a couple of different treatments are being...

To clarify, the sulfa can help to some extent. The link I have in my first post shows that 43 out of 103 of the tested strep equi zoo were sensitive to smz/tmp which means there is some resistance. This disease will also clear up on it's own, which helps add to the confusion. In the interest...

Thanks for the support. My goal is to get a solution to this and publish it as widely as possible so people stop needlessly culling herds and have an effective method for treatment in the future. I seriously doubt that this is a new disease and I doubt that it will completely disappear, but I...

I have this in my herd - flame away. it has been isolated as strep equi subtype zoo, not strep equi subtype equi. It is not fatal, only when people start culling. It does not seem to be nearly as contagious as strangles in horses, and it seems to be more of a contact transmission than an...

Sounds like I missed an awesome show. Good job to everyone who organized it and thanks for posting the results. One question, who won the raffle animals and the teddy bear?

Tab, check around on the Ace Hi Show rabbit, I just got 30 bags for $15.95. It seems like the price at least on the Ace Hi varies greatly depending on who you get it from. I am still hoping I can find a way to get the Ace Hi delivered in Northern California, instead of driving to LA each time...

Breeding older girls can be hit or miss, especially if they haven't been bred before. I have had decent luck getting some of the older non-breeder females started by putting them in colonies with a male that is good, fast breeder. The oldest once that I have gotten started so far was a...