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Old 10-21-2009, 06:05 PM United States
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I've been buying Kaytee brand Timothy hay. I'm looking into buying a bale of Timothy next go round locally though. The couple of feed stores that had hay was all dry and yellow-grey looking and some of it had pigeons sitting on it... Is baled Timothy supposed to be green? And what is the smallest size bale I could get a hold of do you think? Like any other food hay looses nutritional value over time right? I know that they hay is supposed to help keep the teeth in check, but they also eat it so they are getting some kind of nutrition from it, at least fiber. How long should I keep a bale around for feeding once I buy one? I posted a request on my local craigs list to other chinny owners looking to see if anyone wanted to split a bale. I don't think my one chin would go through a bale before it lost all nutritional value.
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Old 10-21-2009, 06:26 PM United States
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Well, firstly most baled hay won't look like the Kaytee hay. That hay is so abnormally green that there's rumors they dye it.

Baled hay should not be predominately yellow or grey however. It should still be pretty green, but like a dried grass green, not the bright vivid green you see in the Kaytee hay.

If it is sitting outside with birds sitting on top of it I would not buy it. It could get rained on and then if it doesn't dry out properly it can get moldy.

The smallest bales you can normally get are the square bales and I think they weigh around 50lbs.

A whole bale for one chin would probably last a year. I think that it'd be best if you could split it. Or maybe give some to a rabbit rescue.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:23 PM United States
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Another way to tell is by smell. It should smell kind of like the day after you mow the lawn, not like basement or the potato bin.
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alli......thanks for the descrip. i just bought a bale from my local feed store and while it is no where near as freaky green as the kaytee is pale green to not so green but they seem to like it. i was planning on taking it apart & putting it in a trash can to breathe and to make sure there wasnt any mold or moistness.
i figure with 7 now, i will definitely go thru it!
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:05 PM
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I'm all about bringing older threads back to life today, lol!

I just got done with chin-time upstairs. The last thing I do every night when my boys out is hay. I sit on the floor, grabbing some, feeding him some of his favorite (the brown, lol), checking a lot for any mold, then when I put it in the cage, he knows playtime is over. But tonight was different

I think I found a peice of moldy hay! It was a stalk, a really dull, yellish color-sickly looking! I pulled it apart and inside was black powdery stuff that came off onto my finger! That was mold, right?! So, I inspected every single big and tiny peice of hay before I put it in his cage, freaking out a little, and here I am!!!! That was mold, right?! So, what do I do now?! I know which section of the bin I got it from-do I throw that 1/2 away, or should I dump it all and go buy more tomorrow?! And also, I use Kaytee!!!! It smells really fresh (sweet) and looks great, so I always thought it was such great hay-I knew there was talk of the products, but the hay always seemed so fresh to me. I know any brand could have a moldy peice! I'm still sort of a new chin mom, though-compared to some of you who've owned chins 10, 20 years, I'm a newborn mom-so I'm still really paranoid and overprotective. I'm afraid of the peices I had already fed him, worried I didn't look at them or not enough and I missed mold.

So, should I dump it all, some, what?! And if he did get a little mold, will he be okay? Should I bring him to the vet? There's an emergency one a 1/2 hour from me who treats chins-his vet, so I can do it now if I have to! He's acting fine, but if you think I should, I will! And I can go buy new hay tomorrow-Oxbow if you think its better (i'm guessing you do, lol)! Help me
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Vet is probably not necessary unless he's showing signs of a URI (wet eyes or nose, rubbing his face, sneezing, wheezing, etc.). I'd get a new bale, though. The mold can make you sick as well as him.

Just got an email that Kleen Mama's hay loft in CA has a great crop of second cut Timothy coming in, but shipping from there will kill you. So, since you're closer to here, try: www.farmerdave.biz

The 5 pound box usually lasts me several months and I only have a singleton too.
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You can order Oxbow hay at www.drsfostersmith.com
Shipping is only 5.99 no matter how much you order!! Plus you could get some different kinds of hay like orchard grass, oat hay, etc. in addition to timothy.
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:12 AM
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Thank you both!!!! I'll check them both out tomorrow definitely. And he's acting totally fine, hopping around, running on his wheel, dry, quiet besides the normal chin noises. I'll keep a close eye on him for the next few days though-like I don't already, lol! Overprotective-he's not even a year old, though, so there's my excuse, but I'm sure most of you are as well.

3C'smommy, I bought an applewood toy off ebay from a farmerdave-I wonder if it's the same guy My chin devoured it in one night, lol-he LOVED it and it wasn't small-petshop applewood he takes longer to tear up-his was probably fresher.

Seriously, thank you both! I'll dump it all! I'd rather be safe than sorry! Another question, though. Where's a good place to store hay? His is in a plastic storage tote thing from Target-like 65 gallon-full too Is that ok? I asked on Yahoo Answers before I joined onn here and they said yes, but now I'm questioning it. It never gets wet, his room is always 70 F or below, and the AC gets rid of the lots of humidity in NJ, but...

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You can order Oxbow hay at www.drsfostersmith.com
Shipping is only 5.99 no matter how much you order!! Plus you could get some different kinds of hay like orchard grass, oat hay, etc. in addition to timothy.
Thank you for that link! I know where I'm getting my hay from now...
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Thank you both!!!!

3C'smommy, I bought an applewood toy off ebay from a farmerdave-I wonder if it's the same guy My chin devoured it in one night, lol-he LOVED it and it wasn't small-petshop applewood he takes longer to tear up-his was probably fresher.
You're welcome. I once brought a small baby chin home once (well, technically twice, but like most 'moms' the second time wasn't as stressful), so I know how nerve wracking it can be to have this itty bitty creature that's totally your responsibility.

And as for the toy, yes, that was probably him. I wouldn't waste the money/time getting Oxbow from a big box pet store if you can deal with FarmerDave: his stuff goes from the field to a barn to a box to you; while Oxbow is good stuff, it's still a mass produced item. I've found Farmer Dave to be fresher, and better priced, though if Oxbow is what you can get, it's certainly not bad by any means.
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