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Old 06-26-2010, 02:27 PM United States
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So, I was innocently reading one of the UK forums and someone posted about a chin they noticed on chinchillas.com a "Curly Carrier." I admit I've not heard anything about a curly chin so I was intrigued.

This is the curly carrier in question. Looks normal, right?


and these are the photos they found of a "Curly" chin.



They remind me of a "rex" rat which has curly fur and whiskers.


One of the downsides to the fur of the rex is that their fur also tends to thin out, I see skin in the chin photos. I can't see this as being something that is desirable.
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Old 06-26-2010, 02:33 PM United States
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Interesting...I think curly looks much better on a rat...what's the point of it on a chin?
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Old 06-26-2010, 02:48 PM United States
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If you go to this site you can see a few more "curly" chins. They belong to a german breeder I know. She is the one who traded some of her "Curlies" with Jim Ritterspach for some of his "Angora" chins.

http://www.chinchillahobbyzuchtwilson.de

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Old 06-26-2010, 02:50 PM United States
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If you go to this site you can see a few more "curly" chins. They belong to a german breeder I know. She is the one who traded some of her "Curlies" with Jim Ritterspach for some of his "Angora" chins.

http://www.chinchillahobbyzuchtwilson.de

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Ritterspach doesn't own the angora's, they are owned by a couple of women in Texas. I can't read German, so have no idea what tab to look at to see more.
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Old 06-26-2010, 02:54 PM United States
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Sorry, go to "Meine Chins". Then scroll down. Jim is selling the Angoras for Tamara Tucker and did make the deal, I am sure with her knowledge.

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Old 06-26-2010, 03:24 PM United States
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I've seen curlies before, not in person, but have heard of them. I think they're kinda of cute, probably not for the price though...

ETA: the first chin looks normal because it's a carrier, the curly is appears to be a recessive gene. With just one carrier it would be hit and miss breeding for several years to get a curly I'd guess.
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Old 06-26-2010, 03:59 PM United States
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It just looks like a really dirty chin to me.

Ronda had a violet line that hand kinky fur. It only showed up in the violets, never the carriers, and it made this beautiful ripple effect all over the chin. They had a very shiny, short fur, the kinks were a lot smaller than the ones above. Of course, they got hammered on the show table and she got rid of the line, but they were neat.
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I agree, it looks like a poor quality rescue with dirty matted fur. I love chin fur because it looks like a "solid mass".
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:31 PM United States
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When you scroll down to the first curly on this page, it just looks moth eaten to me. Further down there are curlier babies. Linky

I don't see this mutation as "bettering the breed." And if people are going to breed that for "pet" homes, it often means that they are not breeding with their top quality animals. So the "pet" home ends up with an animal that is of lessor quality.
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You would be surprised on how nice some of the ones Jim is breeding are turning out. I have seen many of them that are far improved from what he started with. He is putting some great quality chins in with the ones he got from Germany and while they may not at this time be for the show table with to days rules they sure are something different. Tucker is also working with them.
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