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Old 01-22-2018, 08:09 AM United States
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Bouts of loose poo and gas, it would come and go every couple of weeks.
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ďWhen I buy cookies I eat just four and throw the rest away. But first I spray them with Raid so I wonít dig them out of the garbage later. Be careful, though, because that Raid really doesnít taste that bad.Ē
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Old 02-07-2018, 01:01 PM United States
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Oh man... just spent 20 minutes composing a reply and I lost connection to the server! Starting over, I'll try to keep it concise:
Thanks for the mention Dawn but Toby does not seem to have those symptoms. His poo is either normal, what I call "shaggy" or liquid, as in diarrhea. Can be all three in a single day. First antibiotic reduced occurrences of diarrhea but didnít completely stop it (Flagyl). Second antibiotic was too hard on his appetite and energy level (Baytril) so I stopped after 7 days. He wouldnít even take Critical Care and forcing him beyond a certain point was too stressful for both of us. Now I think the vet doesnít know what else to do because she is suggesting he goes back on Flagyl or I go get a special consult from UC Davis (they have a veterinary college I think?)
Things Iíve done:
  1. Disinfect cage almost daily.
  2. Reduced amount of pellets, added probiotic powder, increased amount of hay.
  3. Cut out all treats a month ago.
  4. Kept him separate from his cage mate.

Next steps Iím considering, and if you all have opinions please do chime in:
  1. Insist on additional giardia tests? Iíve read that sometimes the chinís poo needs to be tested multiple times. My vet did a single test to rule it out months ago.
  2. Combine Panacur with Flagyl? Iíve also read that sometimes it takes a combination to knock out the tougher bugs.
  3. Is there a different medication altogether I could inquire about?
  4. Change out his pellets. Currently Oxbow, I could go back to Mazuri but that would mean ordering online only as itís not locally available. I used Chewy.com for the chinís hay and just stopped ordering from them because the quality, although it was Oxbow, seemed like crap with a lot of broken down small pieces and brown patches.

Aside from this digestive tract drama, Toby seems very normal. Great energy, loves his out of cage play time, bright eyed and inquisitive, comes to me willingly, eats and drinks like a champ. But he is not putting back on any of the weight he has lost after months of being sick so Iím very worried about him.
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:57 AM United States
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What was the course of flagyl? Was it something like 5 days on, three off, 5 on?
Have they done any xrays or ultrasound of the gut yet?
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Old 02-09-2018, 12:19 AM United States
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The Flagyl was prescribed for 7 days every 12 hours, a 0.3 mL dose
Tobyís tests included: fecal float for Giardia, blood & urine tests and an ultrasound.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:35 AM United States
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I would go for the flagyl again, as long as the chin did ok on it, its worth a try that the original course was not long enough.
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Old 02-19-2018, 11:33 PM United States
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Thank you. I took Toby to the vet again and got the flagyl precribed for two weeks this time. The vet also added of 0.1ml Panacur once a day for 5 dayís. Fingers crossed this works!
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Old 03-30-2018, 03:22 PM United States
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Well I guess at this point, I'm just continuing this thread for posterity! And hoping to keep updated with useful information when I find any that may help the next poor chin/owner going through something similar. After FIVE months of almost daily diarrhea and various tests and antibiotics, my vet has officially given up on us and suggested I take Toby to the Veterinary Teaching Hosiptal at UC Davis. I'll have to take a vacation day to travel up there since it's a 2 or 3 hour drive, depending on traffic. I hope they'll be able to help, Toby has lost over 100g since this started :-(
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Old 04-30-2018, 11:30 PM United States
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Poor Toby is down to 490 grams still having daily episodes of diarrhea, second opinion vet did full body X-rays, another fecal float, even some preventive teeth trimming/filing because he saw some slight abnormalities. He talked to an internal medicine specialist who recommended a supplement called Young Again; said she amazing improvement in some rabbits that had similar problems. Two weeks on it and no effects so far, really.

On the plus side, he remains bright-eyed and energetic. Appetite and liquid intake is good/normal. Other than his daily attacks, he seems his completely normal self. Heís managed to stump two veterinarians now... my poor little boy with his mystery illness!
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