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Old 07-02-2010, 05:07 PM United States
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That's interesting - most vets here use barbiturates.

That's what my vet uses.
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What is cervical dislocation. How is it done?
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Old 07-02-2010, 05:27 PM United States
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It's breaking the chin's neck.
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Cervical dislocation is legal and widely used.
Gassing is legal.
Electrocution is not legal, but popular among pelting herds.

Most vets put them down with potassium (give them a heart attack).
KCl is only acceptable in anesthetized animals, so by that point why not just use a barbiturate overdose.
Barbiturates are extremely painful if they are not IV.

Guillotining is very specially used in labs and only when pharmaceutics may interfere with experiments.

Cervical dislocation is not REALLY supposed to be used on rats, so I am not sure how humane it is for chins.

C02 in a closed gas chamber would be the most cost effective and humane method in my opinion. After that would be gas anesthesia with barb overdose.
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What is cervical dislocation. How is it done?
Cervical dislocation involves putting pressure at the base of the neck and pulling/wrenching to break the spinal cord. It should ONLY be done with proper training since doing it incompletely or incorrectly can cause the animal massive amounts of pain as well as a long slow death.
A lot of people who use CD use it as a secondary (confirmatory) method of euthanasia.
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AVMA Guidelines on Euthanasia (this document explains the different methods of euthanasia and whether or not they are considered humane): http://www.avma.org/issues/animal_we...euthanasia.pdf
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AVMA Guidelines on Euthanasia (this document explains the different methods of euthanasia and whether or not they are considered humane): http://www.avma.org/issues/animal_we...euthanasia.pdf
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Having watched my sister die before my eyes I would only consider taking my animal to a vet who would first drug or put the animal under before performing the euthanasia. No living creature accepts death without a fight--even when they know it is time to go. They fight and will fight until the bitter end. Having to see this and hear a death rattle is very emotionally painful. I am very, very, VERY big on drugging anyone or anything until it feels no pain and then having it put down.
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That's interesting - most vets here use barbiturates.
All the vets I have ever spoken with (dog, cat, and exotic...not cattle or horse) use a barbiturate solution for euthanasia.

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A nonsterile solution containing pentobarbital sodium and phenytoin sodium as the active ingredients. Rhodamine B, a bluish-red fluorescent dye, is included in the formulation to help distinguish it from parenteral drugs intended for therapeutic use. Although the solution is not sterile, benzyl alcohol, a bacteriostat is included to retard the growth of microorganisms.
That's the contents of euthanasol which is a product from Schering & Plough. It's widely used by veterinarians that do a heart stick.

I know of vets that do the heart stick, IMO, without sedation first it's not ethical. Can you imagine having your heart stopped and being awake to feel it? Sedation then euthanasia is the only way to go about a heart stick.

I have also done a gas chamber set up with dry ice. It went very well for both the chinchilla and myself. I swaddled her like a burrito and made her as comfortable as possible, then introduced the gas. She didn't smell it and the dry ice melting in close proximity (not touching) kept her at a nice temperature. She went to sleep and then passed on, no struggling or crying but you have to use a large amount of dry ice. I had my brother help me, and he's been working with dry ice for the past couple years in his labs so he knows exactly how it works.
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